Importance (or Not) Of Designer's Signature On Box

[2cute4u2]

#68

Hi Everyone:

I was curious if solid perfume boxes that are signed by the designer are more valuable or desirable than those that do not come with a signature. I noticed that some pieces on ebay have signatures and the sellers are asking a high price–they either list them with a high starting bid or a high buy it now price. /biggrin.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’biggrin.gif’ />

[KK]

#10712

Hi Barb,
None of my boxes are signed. But, I've never had an occassion to be with the designer. Or I would have mine signed. Or autographed.
Lisa posted that Jay Strongwater will be at some of the SAKS stores. I'm 1000 miles away from the closest SAKS. If I had an opportunity to get an autograph I surely would.
But, I don't think the signature is the most important “thing”. The solid itself is the main attraction for me. But, lotsa buts here….the signature would be very nice. I guess the personal touch deserves to bring a higher price.
KK <img src='style_emoticons//tongue.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’tongue.gif’ /> <img src='style_emoticons//blink.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’blink.gif’ />

[Sandra]

#10713

Hi Barb – I don't signatures should up the value by too much. Again, it's nice to have, but not THE most important thing . . . . it's just a signature . . . I personally still wouldn't pay more than the market value just because it's signed.

[greyhound]

#10714

Personally, I wouldn't over spend just to have a signature. I'm not sure if it's more valuable in the long run…it would be in many other collecting areas. I buy what I like at the price range I'm willing to spend. If it's signed, it's a bonus.

I only got 2 Strongwater solids signed when he came to town (in 2002). I eventually bought the other 3 solids unsigned. Out of those 3, I found 2 on ebay signed (reserve was at retail and no one outbid me). <img src='style_emoticons//smile.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’smile.gif’ /> Unofficially, I'm looking for the last one signed….but, I refuse to overpay. My goal is to complete the set. I have a similar dilema with Strongwater's 2003 collection—3 signed and 2 unsigned.

[Don and Margaret]

#10715

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[2cute4u2]

#10716

Thank you to everyone for your insightful posts! I do believe that collecting what one likes at a price that one can live with is the way to go. I am glad that your posts brought out that message.

Having collected the Steiff pieces, I also found that the signature was of very little consequence. In some cases, it was seen as undesireable because the signature was on the bear's paw or foot and was permanent.

BTW…a few of you referred to market value on the solids. Where is such information available?

Again, thank you for sharing your knowledge, opinions and expertise with me. <img src='style_emoticons//biggrin.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’biggrin.gif’ />

[Petals]

#10717

My opinion is a little different, for what it's worth! I tend to think that if the designer actually signs the piece, then it does add a little more value. Once again I could go on and on with my reasonings on this, but will refrain from doing so.

I have a Sunflower which was signed and that does make it a little more special! Same applies to the Harrods solids. This is part of Collecting too!

So if I could have everything personally signed by the designers, then I would expect to pay more or sell at a higher price.

I still appreciate what I have without the signatures, but the signing part is another little piece of icing on the cake! <img src='style_emoticons//smile.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’smile.gif’ />

[Sandra]

#10718

“Market Value” is today's (current) prices. Ie. what you'd expect to pay for it now.

eg. The market value for the Carousel (MI:cool: today would at least be in excess of US$750.00(?). If you got it for less it'd be a bargain. Last year, the market value would've been between$600 – $700 (I think).

Other members will correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure.

[Ann and Ken]

#10719

In the world of autograph collecting , the signature value depends on how many were signed . If the “famous” person signed a lot the value is much less than a reclusive person.

I would think in solid collecting the same would be true.

Mr. Conte signed alot and even ones he didn't design. LOL. <img src='style_emoticons//laugh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’laugh.gif’ />
Mr. strongwater has started to sign and appear at a bunch of places. <img src='style_emoticons//biggrin.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’biggrin.gif’ />
Mr. Al faded(sp.) signed only a few. <img src='style_emoticons//huh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’huh.gif’ />

I also think that if you were there and met the signer it would be more imortant to you personally.

I would not pay more to have a signed one but it doesn't “hurt ” the value, as far as I know.

Ann

[Petals]

#10720

Well if they were signing thousands A&K I would take your point. But I cannot imagine for one minute that they are. I stand to be corrected by my colleagues!

Meanwhile, I would still assert that a signed piece has the edge over the unsigned!
And as for signing others that were not designed by him, I cannot see the point! That does not make sense in my book, but there again……… <img src='style_emoticons//blink.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’blink.gif’ />

[Ann and Ken]

#10721

Based on their(signers) appearances I believe more get signed here(USA) than over there.

They also sign solids at appearances that are sold later not just when someone buys them at the store.

I have plenty that were signed and sold long (days) after the signer has left the building.

I think it may be a matter of taste whether you want one signed .

I will agree it is better to have one signed than not but should not make the solid that much more valuable, only slightly. IMHO. <img src='style_emoticons//biggrin.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’biggrin.gif’ />

Ann

[Denise]

#10722

Hi all,

I own a couple of signed compacts and I don't think that raises the value all that much, of course it's nice to have……

I think it is exciting to meet the Designer in real life!! Yes! <img src='style_emoticons//smile.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’smile.gif’ />

Denise

[Nancy]

#10723

Hi Jacky, I see your point about Bob Conte signing pieces he didn't design, but Mr Al Fayed isn't a designer and he signs the Harrods solids. I think it's nice to have the signed ones. (Designer or not)

Nancy

[Petals]

#10724

AGREE NANCY!

WITH REGARD TO THE HARRODS LIMITED EDITION SOLIDS, I AM SURE I WAS TOLD THAT MR. AL FAYED IS ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH THE DESIGN ETC. ,AND OBVIOUSLY HAS A GREAT DEAL OF INPUT IN THESE. IT IS PROBABLY NOT LEFT TO E.L AS THESE SOLIDS ARE SPECIFICALLY MADE FOR HARRODS.

THIS, OF COURSE, IS SPECULATIVE AND HEARSAY BUT POSSIBLY CORRECT!

[Nancy]

#10725

Interesting Jacky. Maybe we should 'waylay' him next time he wanders through Harrods and put some ideas to him <img src='style_emoticons//smile.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’smile.gif’ /> What do you think?
On the Harrods theme they could do a compact based on the peacock tiles in the food hall <img src='style_emoticons//biggrin.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’biggrin.gif’ /> You know Martha and I like Peacocks so there's two buyers for a start. <img src='style_emoticons//laugh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’laugh.gif’ /> <img src='style_emoticons//laugh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’laugh.gif’ />
Poor man, I could just imagine him with you on one side and me on the other, he'd have sore ears by the time we'd finished <img src='style_emoticons//rolleyes.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’rolleyes.gif’ />

Nancy

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