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  • Queenie
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    Hi Everyone,
    Perhaps someone can shed some light on a question I have had for some time.
    First, I realize there is a difference between International Estee Lauder perfume solids and ones manufactured for the United States, but why do they make two
    different styles. Secondly, why are they usually sought after and more expensive
    than the American ones?
    Ann and Ken

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    Not a stupid question at all. We have asked this question many times as it doesn't make much sense but a “High offical” at EL told me( for what its worth) that EL made solids for the “overseas” market without so much Glitz because the “overseas market ” didn't like Rhinestones(crystals).

    Looks to me like they run out of stuff and just throw things together and send it “overseas”. <img src='style_emoticons//laugh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’laugh.gif’ /> <img src='style_emoticons//laugh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’laugh.gif’ />

    But who really knows.

    Ann

    VEGAS LADY
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    HI PAM……

    YOUR QUESTION IS A VERY GOOD ONE AND NOT AT ALL STUPID. I AM NO EXPERT ON SOLIDS ( OLD POWDER COMPACTS ARE MY FORTE ) BUT I HAVE PONDERED ON THIS POINT MYSELF. TO MY MIND IT COULD ALL BE TO DO WITH SALES ON E.L.s PART…… WHAT IS INTERNATIONAL THE U.S. WANTS AND WHAT IS U.S. WE WANT AND END UP COLLECTING TWO DIFFERENT STYLES.

    I HAVE THE INTERNATIONAL PLUM AND THE FAIRY, BUT DONT KNOW IF THEY ARE WORTH MORE THAN THE U.S. VERSION……..SO ITS OVER TO THE EXPERTS

    REGARDS……MARGARET….. <img src='style_emoticons//smile.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’smile.gif’ /> <img src='style_emoticons//smile.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’smile.gif’ />

    VEGAS LADY
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    WOW HOW WRONG CAN E.L. BE, WE LOVE THE CRYSTALS.

    SO WE ARE THE POOR RELATIONS THAT HAVE TO EXCEPT THE THROWN TOGETHER STUFF <img src='style_emoticons//sad.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’sad.gif’ /> <img src='style_emoticons//sad.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’sad.gif’ /> OH DEAR, STILL IT WOULD MAKE SENSE

    REGARDS…….MARGARET…….. <img src='style_emoticons//biggrin.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’biggrin.gif’ /> <img src='style_emoticons//biggrin.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’biggrin.gif’ />

    Ann and Ken
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    I like your answer of” WHAT IS INTERNATIONAL THE U.S. WANTS AND WHAT IS U.S. WE WANT AND END UP COLLECTING TWO DIFFERENT STYLES”. Makes the most sense. <img src='style_emoticons//laugh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’laugh.gif’ /> <img src='style_emoticons//biggrin.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’biggrin.gif’ />

    EL marketing is a great mystic secret. <img src='style_emoticons//laugh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’laugh.gif’ /> <img src='style_emoticons//laugh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’laugh.gif’ />

    Ann

    Queenie
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    <img src='style_emoticons//ohmy.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’ohmy.gif’ /> Oh I get it now! It is the old “Bait and Switch” routine. Give the public something they think they want and then change it so they will want more.
    Sounds very interesting!
    Really, Thank You Ann & Ken, Vegas Lady(Margaret) for all your insight and help.
    I purchased a “Tea Cup” from a source in England and still waiting to see if I like the International verison or not, sure would cut down on my spending if not.
    <img src='style_emoticons//wink.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’wink.gif’ />

    greyhound
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    I'm suspicious as always. I think it's EL's ploy to save $$ on the crystals and charge a whole lot more for the international market. They can get away with it.

    I find the problem similar with international items sold in America. Czech crystal is a perfect example. We get the plain crystal (usually clear) imported and prices are higher. Prague has more color selection with more cuts at reasonable prices. You'll have trouble finding a teal bowl with the nice cuts here in America.

    Maybe, the rule for any country is to: keep the best items domestic and import the lesser (or lower quality) items.

    pinkmoiree
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    We're talking here about solids, so I couldn't say that I didn't like “Glitz”, except for the beehive; I prefer the international version to the American one, because the bees take here better effect <img src='style_emoticons//smile.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’smile.gif’ />

    Madeleine

    Brigitte
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    Hi everyone,

    sorry to contradict to several post.
    I was told that the international ones have less “glitz” to keep them lower price.
    Since some years they havn't issued international versions anymore. Also some of the very high priced solids often are cheaper here in Switzerland, but most of the solids are much higher priced in the U.K.

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    WHAT IS INTERNATIONAL THE U.S. WANTS AND WHAT IS U.S. WE WANT AND END UP COLLECTING TWO DIFFERENT STYLES

    I can tell you a little story about that. In 2000 they issued the “drop of intuition” only in the international market. It was very “glitzy” and I was convinced that the US collectors would be absolutely crazy getting them. I thought I could at least make a little profit on them to finance my own collection and bought 10 pieces of them. It was the very first time I added a solid to eBay…….would you believe that I only sold 1 and still have 9 of them left.
    The same happened in 2001 to the “Essence of you” and “the Language of the Heart” which according to my opinion (and watching eBay) are not very much thought after……..I didn't make the same mistake (one is only allowed to make the very same mistake once <img src='style_emoticons//laugh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’laugh.gif’ /> )and havn't bought any of them to store.

    Brigitte

    jardanel
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    I am in Germany and solid collecting is still in its infancy over here and might never grow big. Some shops had some nice sparkly ones a couple of years ago and when they did not sell, they reduced the price up to 70 % and that is when I bought them. I even sold some of them for much more, but the shops have given up selling them now since they always lost money on them. There are very few shops that have them over here now and I am grateful for the internet! I am a fan of Strongwater designs or multi-mega-rhinestoned ones and am even planning to go to Vegas to buy some there! I think the ones that are available in Germany are mostly boring, although some shops even start to offer ones they get from the USA, for the dedicated collectors

    Petals
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    Have you tried Douglas Perfumery in Dusseldorf? I have found some really nice ones there. They will post too…..

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