Solid Perfume Forums General Lauder Solids Talk Discoloration Of The Perfume Solids

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  • 2cute4u2
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    Hi Everyone:

    I just received an older perfume solid (from 1999). It came in its original box and the solid piece itself is stunning! /ohmy.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’ohmy.gif’ />

    Since I am new to this venue of collectibles, can someone please shed some light on this discoloration for me. Does it devalue a piece? Should the seller have disclosed the discoloring? The piece was sold as MIB so that is why I am asking for opinions. I do notice that many solids sellers do mention discoloration and shrinkage in the item description.

    Again, thank you for your insights.

    favoritegram
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    Hi Barb, it is my experience that the discoloration is normal. It is just from air reaching the solid. I never use any of mine and may have this discoloration. I personally am not bothered by it. Lainey

    KK
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    Hi 2cute Barb,
    I agree with Lainie. I have a few mint solids that are discolored due to the air, but to me that doesn't matter. I don't think it lowers the value.
    But, the experts may have a different view. We'll wait to see what's said.
    KK <img src='style_emoticons//tongue.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’tongue.gif’ />

    Ann and Ken
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    Agree with KK & Lainey.

    Don't think it affects the value.

    The solids did not close airtight and the perfume discolors and shrinks.

    It will be interesting to see if the newer magnet closures keep the perfume fresh.

    Ann

    2cute4u2
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    Thank you for your posts! I value your opinions and was glad to read that discoloration is normal. Of course if it due to air getting into the solid, then this is unavoidable no matter how careful a collector may be.

    BTW… I was told that using a blow dryer and heating up the solid will bring it back to a more normal shade. Has anyone else heard that? And, more importantly, has anyone tried this? <img src='style_emoticons//blink.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’blink.gif’ />

    Maeuschen
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    Hi 2 cute !
    I don't use the hair dryer any longer. When you use it the perfume is melting but you cannot change the discolouration. You can eliminate fingerprints or something like this. When the perfume is melted and the air stream is to strong perfume can get out of the box. You must be very carefully. When the perfume is harden again
    it looks a little more shiny than the original filling. If you want to fill an unfilled box with original solid perfume its better to melt in a little pot in water on the stove to make sure that it's not to hot. When it's to hot it began to smoke and you get a discolouration too. First you can try it with beeswax and almond oil how it will work.
    There are interesting recipies for solid perfume to make by yourself. Hope this will
    answers your questions <img src='style_emoticons//smile.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’smile.gif’ /> .

    Best wishes !

    Michaela

    2cute4u2
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    Hi Michaela:

    Thank you for your informative post. I think that it is best for me (because I am a novice to all of this) to leave the perfume solids alone. It all seems so very complicated. <img src='style_emoticons//blink.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’blink.gif’ />

    The solid I bought has the original perfume and it appears to be untouched, just discolored. Many have posted that discoloration isn't a detraction from value, so that is fine with me, now that I know that. I was just upset that this seller didn't mention a discoloration in the description of the item or show a picture of the solid inside. Most others do mention this fact. However, the seller has offered to adjust the price ($20) for the unmentioned discoloration, which I guess is fair.

    I do find it interesting that the solids can be refilled. I have seen many of the compacts for sale sans the solid perfume for very good prices. I guess if someone really wants to refill the perfume there is a way to do it. <img src='style_emoticons//laugh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’laugh.gif’ />

    As for me, I am just happy to have a solid that is as mint as possible for its age with the original box. <img src='style_emoticons//biggrin.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’biggrin.gif’ />

    Nicki169
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    Barb,
    I am a new collector too. The solid perfumes are generally a light color when purchased new. But the Youth Dew is a darker color solid. When I purchased the 2003 General Distribution Cameo the solid perfume was dark. I thought there was something wrong with it. The saleslady explained that the Youth Dew solid was darker than the the other solid perfumes.

    Sandra
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    Hi Barb – I personally think that the seller should disclose ALL information about the solid before you buy. That's what would happen in a store – you wouldn't buy something without looking at it and buy it if it had a 'fault' – or if there were another that didn't have 'discolouration', you would buy that one.

    Although other members do not think that it (discolouration) affects the value of the solid, I think they'd agree that it's far more pleasant to have one without discolouration that one with.

    And if that's so, why would the seller take $20.00 off??

    In my experience, I have obtained solids with discolouration much cheaper than those without, just because the seller wanted to get 'rid of it'.

    I would also be upset if the seller didn't tell me the actual condition before buying.

    2cute4u2
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    Hi Sandra:

    Thank you for your informative post. I think that I am just too new to this collectibles' market. I am still upset over the fact that the seller didn't diclose the discoloration issue for my most recent purchase, and am now too skeptical to want to buy any more second-market solids. <img src='style_emoticons//mad.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’mad.gif’ />

    For these reasons, I do not plan on purchasing more perfume solids in the near future. <img src='style_emoticons//unsure.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’unsure.gif’ />

    Sandra
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    That's sad that you had an unfortunate experience early on Barb . . . and to have had an adverse affect on you collecting solids. Believe me, I do know how you feel !! It's a lot of money involved and you're not happy with what you got. And worse still, the seller has been 'dishonest' by not disclosing all information about the solid. <img src='style_emoticons//mad.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’mad.gif’ />

    So what can you do . . . . you have to persist in your enquiries and MAKE SURE that it doesn't happen again, and that if it does, you get a satisfactory result!!

    Really, I urge EVERYONE to buy from who you know, or at least get a 100% satisfaction guarantee – OR YOUR MONEY BACK!! That'll keep sellers honest. <img src='style_emoticons//blink.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’blink.gif’ />

    I'm feel the rage, Barb, and am angry that this sort of garbage continues. I have been taken like that – and I swore, NEVER again!! I am careful who I buy from now and how much I spend.

    Ron
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    Barb
    I fall into the bunch who do not mind the perfume being discolored. If you were planning on using it then it would matter.
    I think that is great that they offered you $20 off for discolored perfume.
    Now I am being a bit sarcastic but would it really matter if someone offered you the Imperial Princess, Pink or Purple Rose, Dragon, Merry Go Round and the perfume was discolored.
    When I sell I try to give as good as description as I can. If it is discolored I will mention it but it will not change the price in my opinion.

    Sandra
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    Points taken, Ron. . . . I think it's the fact that it was NEVER mentioned that irks Barb. I think if the seller was upfront about it then it wouldn't be so much of a shock . . .

    Denise
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    Hi all,

    I am in agreement with everyone as I think that any older Compact must have some discoloration and/or shrinkage to it, but I always ask questions if the Seller does not mention it. If the Compact is extremely rare (i.e.; the ones Ron mentioned), I don't care if there is perfume or not. It's the Compact I want, not the perfume. I wonder how many people really use the Solid Perfume? <img src='style_emoticons//huh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’huh.gif’ /> <img src='style_emoticons//huh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’huh.gif’ />

    Sandra, I agree that the Seller should mention the condition of the perfume.

    Barb from So. CA, since the seller didn't mention it, I think it's great that he/she refunded you $20.00. <img src='style_emoticons//smile.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’smile.gif’ />

    Denise

    2cute4u2
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    The seller has yet to refund me the $20 and has not addressed the issue in their most recent email to me. To offer me a refund is one thing…to actually give me the refund…well, that could become a horse of a different color. <img src='style_emoticons//huh.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’huh.gif’ />

    I bought the solid via Paypal and emailed the seller to let them know that I want the $20 credited back to my CC via Paypal. I have never used Paypal and all I know is that my CC was debited in seconds and now I have to wait (goodness know how long?) for this seller to to give me a credit. <img src='style_emoticons//mad.gif’ border=’0′ style=’vertical-align:middle’ alt=’mad.gif’ />

    Sandra is right on the money when she said that what irks me is that the seller did not disclose discoloration. As for whether this solid is rare…heck I don't know! Everyone labels their items as “rare” on ebay and on the solids websites and I see a lot of these so-called “rare” items all over the internet. The sold I bought was the silver cowboy hat. It came in its original box. I have no clue how “rare” the piece is. However, according to the seller, it is “rare” (and there's that magic word) to find one in its original box.

    Again, I appreciate the members' opinions. Hopefully, I will get a credit and I can move on to something else.

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