Beware Of Sizzle Sells On Ebay!

[Lauderlover]

#1369

I wanted to warn my fellow collectors of a VERY dishonest misleading Ebayer who is using the name SizzleSells. She is selling EL solid perfume compacts and listing them as FULL with whatever EL fragrance they were made with but BEWARE! These are empty compacts that she is refilling with her home-made imitation version of an EL fragrance and is not disclosing that in her ad. Some of her compacts did actually have the original real EL scent. She does not bother discerning that and I found out the hard way when I received two compacts that she listed as full with the EL scent but without box/label. The compacts were full of her home-made version of the EL fragrance. When I asked her about it, she said she was aware and she told me I should have known better than to ask her whether the compact was full of the original or refilled with her version. When I asked her to return them, she told me I had to pay the return shipping/insurance fees and she even wanted me to pay her EBay and Paypal fees! What concerns me is she knows she is selling a compact that has been refilled with her knock-off and she is not telling you this. She expects the buyer to ask about the solid's authenticiy. Since when does full mean refilled with my home-made kitchen stuff! I'd steer clear of this misleading Ebay seller who has no integrity! Not to mention that solid she is trying to replicate is a far cry from the real deal! LOL

[veronica]

#26996

Well I just had to sign on and put my 2 cents in here. First I would liek to say that the items lauderlover purchased were requested by her and she even requested me to send her 2 extra refills. So she was aware of the refills.

From: lauderloverr

To: sizzlesells

Subject: lauderloverr has sent a question about :combining shipment for item #180572185443, ending on Nov-08-10 07:03:50 PST – Estee Lauder Perfume Compact Brillant Beach Chair Full

Sent Date: Oct-16-10 06:35:55 PDT

 

Dear sizzlesells,

Hi again! I just won the party shoes from you and was wondering if you combine shipping if I ordered multiple items? I was interested in the clover necklace, beach chair and Candy Cane for $240 if you would consider. Will send Paypal today too. Thanks for your consideration!

– lauderloverr

From: lauderloverr

To: sizzlesells

Subject: Re: lauderloverr has sent a question about :combining shipment for item #180572185443, ending on Nov-08-10 07:03:50 PST – Estee Lauder Perfume Compact Brillant Beach Chair Full

Sent Date: Oct-16-10 07:37:31 PDT

 

Dear sizzlesells,

Tell you what, if you can throw in 2 of the solid perfumes you make yourself in Beautiful and Pleasures, you've got a deal.

– lauderloverr

I know this has been gone over several times on these boards without my participation but I will no longer sit in the background. I've read all the other posts on the matter and frankly after this I will not post about the subject again.

I offered lauderlover a refund of all the items after she demanded and threatened me with posting on message boards. She wouldnt even meet halfway. I suggested we cancel all transaction and everyone would be even except we would both be paying approx $7 shipping each. Me for sending to her and her for returning. We could have done a cancel transaction on ebay and my fees would be refunded. Everything would have been even and she would never have to purchase from me again. That sees fair doesnt it. But no. she wanted a refund before returning the items and including shipping to her and back to me. I can enclose all the conversation if need be butwill not do that unless she insists on everyone seeing it.

Now before everyone jumps in with their comments. I want to remind you all that Lauderlover did the same thing in the past by making refills and trying to sell them. I dont want to hear that the $5 she requested was for shipping becuase it doesnt cost that much to ship withu adding handling charges and charges for ingrredients. Lets look back at what she posted:

Past posts:

THIS HAS TO BE THE BEST YET!!!!!!!!

Lauderlover

  Posted 15 October 2008 – 11:24 AM It's been over 3 years since I've actively collected the Estee solids. I have been very busy, but I have to admit, I am disgusted by what I see on Ebay and Estee Lauder's apparent lack of compassion towards their collectors. I get the new Harrod's Bear each year and that's about it with few exceptions. As for the empty solids on Ebay, I know how to make solid perfume and can make something that is pretty close to what they do.

Lauderlover

Posted 04 March 2003 – 10:52 AM Wanted to say thanks to Lisa for the info on making the solid perfume! I printed off the ad, got all the ingredients, except the vanilla oil – the most expensive, and made the first one today! As a trial, I just combined the Jojoba oil with some EL pleasures fragrance and added that to the melted beeswax and it came out great!! I just wanted to fill up some of the empty solids in my collection!

If anyone would like me to fill an empty solid in your collection, I would happy to. (you'd cover shipping to/from my place in CA and $5 per solid would cover my cost for the ingredients. I can make the fragrance per the recipe (non-estee) or I can make it with any of the other EL fragrances if preferred. Just indicate which fragrance you want in what solid. It's so much fun! Glad I have the time for this now!

I have been selling the refills for a few months now with ebays permission and they are not an infringement on the estee lauder product ….. I have checked.

Yes I have a few negative feedbacks for the scent not being as strong but I have at least 4 times as many positive feedbacks saying the item is great.

To each their own.

Anyone who asks for a refund on any item I sell will get it upon return of the item. It has been said on this site before that questions should always be asked prior to purchase especially with all the warehouse compacts out there.

I just saw a post the other day where a member was acusing an ebay seller of selling a fake harrods palace because the seller sells empties. Ths is not fair becuase if a seller does sell empties it doesnt mean all their items are from a warehouse. I know alot of sellers that buy on ebay for resale. This is the reason you should always ask questions before purchasing anything . More so if you can not see the item in person.

I wish everyone a good night and hope the administrator locks this topic before it gets like the last one.

[Lauderlover]

#26997

Sizzle sells (or Veronica, whoever you are) is nuts and is grasping at straws here to deflect her fraudulent tactics on Ebay, but none of what she said is true. She is a true liar and I suggest you discard her desparate attempts to restore her failing Ebay score as a seller. Frankly, I've never seen someone go this far, but obviously, she must have a lot to lose should Ebay shut down her ads.

Beware of her ads that read the compact is either MINT or FULL. She put the name of the EL fragrance in quotes then stated the compact is either MINT or it's FULL. What she doesn't tell you is that it's full of the stuff she tried to reproduce! She then tells you that you should have known to ask whether the scent is original EL or if it has been refilled with her replica version of the scent. So she knowingly writes these ads to mislead the buyer into thinking it's full with the real stuff when it's full of the “you know what!”.

I think we can all agree that if you're trying to be honetst, WHY NOT DISCLOSE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE REFILLING EMPLTY SOLIDS IN YOUR ADS SO BUYERS KNOW THIS BEFOREHAND?

[Lauderlover]

#26998

I thnk we all know what you and your refilled compacts are “full” of…here's what some others have since shared with me with me…..

Dear lauderloverr,

Thanks for the heads up but I already had her figured out. My beef concerns her emailing me and telling me she would file a claim against me for non payment after ONE DAY! She needs to be tossed off!

– XXXXX-

Dear lauderloverr,

She did the same thing to me & basically called me stupid for not asking about the authenticity of her solid perfume in the compacts! She's as dishonest as they come. I filed a complaint against her and have warned others – she's hoping to pull the wool over your eyes but her knockoff refills are as obvious as daylight!

– XXXXX-

[Lauderlover]

#26999

'veronica' wrote on '21:

Well I just had to sign on and put my 2 cents in here. First I would liek to say that the items lauderlover purchased were requested by her and she even requested me to send her 2 extra refills. So she was aware of the refills. (BUT UNAWARE THAT SHE REFILLED THE COMPACTS SHE SOLD TO LAUDERLOVER AS “FULL”)From: lauderloverr

I offered lauderlover a refund of all the items after she demanded and threatened me with posting on message boards. She wouldnt even meet halfway. ( NOT TRUE)I suggested we cancel all transaction and everyone would be even except we would both be paying approx $7 shipping each. (WHY WOULD YOU CHARGE THE BUYER ANYTHING IF YOUR AD WAS MATERIALLY MISLEADING?)Me for sending to her and her for returning. We could have done a cancel transaction on ebay and my fees would be refunded. Everything would have been even and she would never have to purchase from me again. That sees fair doesnt it. But no. she wanted a refund before returning the items and including shipping to her and back to me. I can enclose all the conversation if need be butwill not do that unless she insists on everyone seeing it. – Why don't you show them EVERYTHING inlcuding your replies?

Now before everyone jumps in with their comments. I want to remind you all that Lauderlover did the same thing in the past by making refills and trying to sell them. I dont want to hear that the $5 she requested was for shipping becuase it doesnt cost that much to ship withu adding handling charges and charges for ingrredients. Lets look back at what she posted: (WHY DON'T YOU POST MY ENTIRE POST – LIAR!)Past posts:

 

If anyone would like me to fill an empty solid in your collection, I would happy to. (you'd cover shipping to/from my place in CA and $5 per solid would cover my cost for the ingredients. I can make the fragrance per the recipe (non-estee) or I can make it with any of the other EL fragrances if preferred. Just indicate which fragrance you want in what solid. It's so much fun! Glad I have the time for this now! (I'm not filling my solids with the intent to resell and/or deceive others who may buy from me, this is just for fun and to add a little more beauty to your existing collection!) If I ever resold a solid I filled myself, I would disclose that info.

…I (Sizzlesells and NOT LAUDERLOVERR) have been selling the refills for a few months now with ebays permission and they are not an infringement on the estee lauder product ….. I have checked. LAUDERLOVERR HAS NEVER MADE AND SOLD REFILLS ON EBAY NOR HAS SHE EVER MADE A REFILL FOR A FRIEND. IT WAS SIMPLY AN OFFER MADE TO OTHER COLLECTORS TO HELP THEM FILL THEIR OWN SOLIDS AND NO OTHER MEMBER EVER AVAILED THEMSELF OF THE OFFER.

Yes I (Sizzlesells or NYSizzle or Veronica)have a few negative feedbacks for the scent not being as strong but I have at least 4 times as many positive feedbacks saying the item is great.

To each their own.

Anyone who asks for a refund (BUT YOU WILL BE OUT SHIPPING TO AND FROM)on any item I sell will get it upon return of the item. It has been said on this site before that questions should always be asked prior to purchase especially with all the warehouse compacts out there.

I just saw a post the other day where a member was acusing an ebay seller of selling a fake harrods palace because the seller sells empties. (THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ISSUE, SHAME ON YOU.)Ths is not fair becuase if a seller does sell empties it doesnt mean all their items are from a warehouse. I know alot of sellers that buy on ebay for resale. This is the reason you should always ask questions before purchasing anything . More so if you can not see the item in person.

I wish everyone a good night and hope the administrator locks this topic before it gets like the last one. (WE all know who you are and what you're trying to do, my goal was to warn others of your deceiving EBay ads about refilling solid compacts and passing them off as original.)

Why not DISCLOSE this fact in your ad??

[veronica]

#27000

If this is a failing score I think you need to learn how to do math.

sizzlesells ( 3998) 98.6%

Just the way you are frantically posting shows frustrated you are. Could it be that your frustrated with yourself?

I culd care less what you put here saying it has come from others. Text can be edited to say anything you want it to which is why I always show the entire message. By signing with XXX just shows cowardness. When I post others opinions or statements I used material that has been published and can be proven to have been said. The statements I have posted from you were published on this very site.

I have already admitted that some have been unhappy with my items I never hid that fact in my first posting. But comeone my close to 4000 positive feedbacks show that buyers have been happy. I am sure I know who your good frends are and frankly it doesnt bother my. You can post away for as long as you like.

Why would you try to lie about making refills when it is posted on this site that you did. This is what you told me”

Dear sizzlesells,

Honey, you've got me confused with someone else. I never ever made refills & tried to sell them on Ebay as knock-offs. I will go thru the proper channels to get my refund & will be warning everyone I know about your shady dealings.

– lauderloverr

Then you changed it:

Dear sizzlesells,

Oh, you mean my little kitchen experiment I tried in my own home for one of my compacts? You need to look up the definition of copyright infringement. FYI, what I did in the privacy of my own home on my own compacts does not rise to that level. I didn't try replicating something that was protected under copywrite laws. Let me ask you something, Sherlock, since you sell some compacts that have the real EL fragrance and the ones that have your phony crap, why DON'T you distinguish that fact in your ads? Since you profess to be such an honest person?

– lauderloverr

By the way, as I have said I just began making the refills a few months ago and that wasnt until after my sister showed me the post where you did it FIRST. So thank you for your pioneering work in creating EL fragrance refills. Hats off to you Marianne.

[Lauderlover]

#27001

You're a real piece of work – grasping for straws. Again, WHY DON'T YOU JUST TELL PEOPLE YOU'RE REFILLING THE SOLIDS WITH YOUR HOME MADE STUFF SO THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE ORIGINAL EL FRAGRANCE?

[P.E.Parry]

#27002

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